LP8

[Hughesta]

Holy shit that's cool. Awesome job!

[BallsMcGrath]

Fantastic work. Thank you!!

[djzap]

Glad ye like it Hopefully I can do some more at some point soon.
Working on one for the Cambridge show on the same tour.

I see the ORLProjects account on instagram is posting some teasers with tour footage and some music, some are unfamiliar and one is an ambient version of Fin! Perhaps the ones I don't recognise are some stems from the album. https://www.instagram.com/orlprojects

[vismund b]

Wow! That Jacob Jam is super cool. It’s been ages since I’ve listened to that. I forgot how freaking cool it is. Thanks for doing that.

As for this new album, so far my favorites are Mictlán/Nefilibata and Un disparo al vacio/Maullidos. Kinda can’t stop listening to them.

I agree with a previous post about wanting more guitar parts. That part in Un disparo al vacio at 2:24 when the guitar comes in is amazing. Leaves me wanting more, wishing they would explore that more, keep it going for the next 12 minutes. Lol, at least a couple of minutes would be nice. But overall an amazing album. Can’t wait to see what these guys can come up with next.

[fora_de_coma]

Seems to me they are trying to put effort in a bigger distribution this time.
If Clouds Hill were taking cake of most of the preorders like they did with the S/T, I think they would’ve dot it while ago.

Today the preorders are starting to showing up like mushrooms (Rough trade included), which also confirms the 11th of April. Seems like a decent strategy to try to increase sales with the RSD being on the 12th?

[Andrewf]

Annoying that que dios is called lp8 on wiki despite it being a rerecording. I think rerecording shouldnt be considered separate albums. Because of this lucro is called lp9 in some places

[Hughesta]

So Clouds Hill is just not gonna promo this thing at all huh

[BallsMcGrath]

So Clouds Hill is just not gonna promo this thing at all huh

Yeah this adds more weight to my theory that Cedric himself leaked the album.

[fora_de_coma]

Why he would? There’s no evidence he did. He offered his copy to the fan because the album already leaked.

[BallsMcGrath]

Why he would? There’s no evidence he did. He offered his copy to the fan because the album already leaked.

Just a guess on my end. Problems with the label. Preorders showing up everywhere except the official label. Cedric pretending he has no idea what people are talking about. Tour starts and they’re playing the new album. It makes me wonder if Cedric & Co. wanted the album out before this tour started.

[djzap]

I can only hope it's some guerilla marketing thing going on or something because really it's very disappointing to see that Clouds Hill haven't done any promo at all and we're a month away from release. This is such a good album and it deserves the best chance it can get. It's fucking TMV we're talking about here, this should be big news. And still nobody really outside of our circle knows there's a new record coming in just a few weeks. I like to give Clouds Hill the benefit of the doubt because I know there is or has been a strong relationship there with Omar since the 2000s but I don't know, circumstances would certainly have you wondering.

[Bronxblanco]

No promo from CH sucks! It probably means we aren't getting a special variant edition of the album. Still keeping my fingers crossed

[Jehu]

Why he would? There’s no evidence he did. He offered his copy to the fan because the album already leaked.

Just a guess on my end. Problems with the label. Preorders showing up everywhere except the official label. Cedric pretending he has no idea what people are talking about. Tour starts and they’re playing the new album. It makes me wonder if Cedric & Co. wanted the album out before this tour started.

There was also that time Cedric told fans to just pirate If It Ever Gets Weird if they want to watch it.

[Hughesta]

Documentary stuff could have soured relationships that bad, I guess

[fora_de_coma]

What Cedric said was silly. Clouds Hill were following all the steps about how to distribute an indie movie. The only mistake here was to screen it online at a polish festival, they underestimated TMV fanbase here.
Johann made boxset and reissues, Omar boxset and reissues, produced and promoted the documentary, promoted and released the s/t, probably without him we wouldn’t have Philo on drums. For me it’s hard to believe they have something to complain about CH, once they did so much for them. Johann accept to do very risky projects, especially the documentary and Omar reissues/boxset. It’s not easy to make profit out of that. At least in short time.

If I remember well, they were doing Lucro sucio overdubs in the end of 2023 which means it was finished for a while now, but It couldn’t be out earlier, since it couldn’t interfere with the movie campaign. Sometimes bands choose to not promote new albuns to save money or to make surprise releases. I know they are not Kendrick Lamar or Radiohead but still who knows? Maybe they still have some surprise for the release date, who knows.
I remember Cedric once backing Clouds hill on Instagram about the boxset or the reissues, can’t remember now, but something like “clouds hill working really hard to make this happen, sometimes things happen during business but that’s ok”

[fora_de_coma]

I can only hope it's some guerilla marketing thing going on or something because really it's very disappointing to see that Clouds Hill haven't done any promo at all and we're a month away from release. This is such a good album and it deserves the best chance it can get. It's fucking TMV we're talking about here, this should be big news. And still nobody really outside of our circle knows there's a new record coming in just a few weeks. I like to give Clouds Hill the benefit of the doubt because I know there is or has been a strong relationship there with Omar since the 2000s but I don't know, circumstances would certainly have you wondering.

To be fair, there was a proper campaign for the S/T (for a small Indie Label standards), and it didn't went that further outside our circle either.

[djzap]

What Cedric said was silly. Clouds Hill were following all the steps about how to distribute an indie movie. The only mistake here was to screen it online at a polish festival, they underestimated TMV fanbase here.
Johann made boxset and reissues, Omar boxset and reissues, produced and promoted the documentary, promoted and released the s/t, probably without him we wouldn’t have Philo on drums. For me it’s hard to believe they have something to complain about CH, once they did so much for them. Johann accept to do very risky projects, especially the documentary and Omar reissues/boxset. It’s not easy to make profit out of that. At least in short time.

If I remember well, they were doing Lucro sucio overdubs in the end of 2023 which means it was finished for a while now, but It couldn’t be out earlier, since it couldn’t interfere with the movie campaign. Sometimes bands choose to not promote new albuns to save money or to make surprise releases. I know they are not Kendrick Lamar or Radiohead but still who knows? Maybe they still have some surprise for the release date, who knows.
I remember Cedric once backing Clouds hill on Instagram about the boxset or the reissues, can’t remember now, but something like “clouds hill working really hard to make this happen, sometimes things happen during business but that’s ok”

i think that's part of what makes this so confusing. CH have done amazing and, as you say, financially risky projects for O+C. the Omar boxset alone is one of those projects where it just seems logistically impossible to pull off and yet they did it. they have generally been so good when it comes to having a promotional timeline ahead of release, even having a countdown for the omar boxset etc. So it just makes it that bit more baffling that this is less than a month until release without any word from the horses mouth, be it official TMV accounts or Clouds Hill. Even those little live clips are being posted on the orlprojects account instead of TMV. I'm a little less likely to put it down to 'falling out with the label' like some ppl online are saying because CH is a very different entity from their previous major label overlords. It's a friend of Omar's who he has a long personal relationship with, rather than a corporate machine. Maybe you're right and there was a plan for either a surprise release or some announcement very shortly before release, but in that case they shot themselves in the foot providing information to retailers for pre-orders!

[BobbyBaliverne]

Yeah I don't believe in the "falling out" stuff, because in any case CH would have interest in selling the records, whether they're still on good terms or not, especially for a small label like them for whom TMV is the biggest band they have signed.
I also don't believe that leaking the album was intentionnally done.

Something probably went wrong when the album leaked regarding the kind of promo stuff they had anticipated and so they decided to cancel it and see. I also wonder how much album promotion affects sales for a band like TMV. Maybe not promoting is actually making them win money. Maybe, considering the nature of LS, they didn't feel like putting out 1, 2, 3 singles out and felt like it would spoil the album. Maybe it's still time to launch the promo machine once the album is out, and they'll have a lot of fans who'll already know LS, ready to convert newly interested people.

In any case I'm really curious about upcoming interviews if they ever happen lol
I wanna know what this weird album is about !! can't get much meaning from the lyrics (if anyone has an idea...)


Sorry not sure I'm making much sense, writing in english is hard for me tonight

[fora_de_coma]

Guys, imagine for a moment that Lucro didn't leak. They start playing it like they are doing now, people going nuts, wondering if Teri's on the record/part of TMV group, album title, tracklist, etc. It still have impact how it is now, but that would be even more cryptic if we didn't know anything at all. People are just feeding with the falling out nonsense because we know about the music already.

I think they are purposely acting this way because it's economically safer for them at this point: they don't need to feed TMV hardcore threads anymore because it feeds by itself: people actively post everyday about the tour or album related. The word is been spreading.

Also, another reason that might be relevant to mention, is that I've been noticing several artists unhappy with meta nowadays because you can't trust the algorithm, and they never been the kind of people that want to sell bullshit lifestyle or personal stuff to try to feed that, in that sense, for them, it's not a very useful tool anyway.

They doing some promo on the side, like ORL page. Even Johann created on of those Instagram channels and on the other day he posted himself confirming that the TMV release is 11th of April, but a few hours after that he erased those posts, lol. Apparently he's gonna do an AMA on the 7th of April, so maybe we still on time for some surprise. It seems that they are kinda teasing us in a mysterious way, but I don't think it's that deep, but I think it's been working in order to keep people engaged.

These are just my two cents anyway.

[djzap]

Guys, imagine for a moment that Lucro didn't leak. They start playing it like they are doing now, people going nuts, wondering if Teri's on the record/part of TMV group, album title, tracklist, etc.

I've been thinking about this. The hype levels would be so much higher. But honestly I'm glad about it leaking for my own sanity because I know I would be in a mad obsessive state about TMV, looking up things all the time trying to find more clips etc, for the whole lead up to the album and it's fun but it can also be a bit of a problem haha.

[fora_de_coma]

I get you, but aren't we obsessive anyway? haha

[BobbyBaliverne]

I've been thinking about this. The hype levels would be so much higher. But honestly I'm glad about it leaking for my own sanity because I know I would be in a mad obsessive state about TMV, looking up things all the time trying to find more clips etc, for the whole lead up to the album and it's fun but it can also be a bit of a problem haha.

Totally that the album leak already caused problems with my wife and kids as for a whole day I wasn't able to do anything except being sooo excited, took me another two days to cool a little bit lol
But I really miss the pre-nocto-hype feelings we could have gotten...

[Hughesta]

Probably a good thing we got the record early - will stop people from being disappointed it doesn't sound like the live rips.

[djzap]

nah that won't work because even people who have heard the leak are thinking that the version coming out officially will have extra stuff on it haha

[Hughesta]

some people are beyond help lol